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Petrus Albertus Rijno Otto J. P.
(1810-1890)
Elizabeth Erasmus
(1819-1900)
Jan Gideon Nel
(1847-1937)
Sophia Salomina Jacomina Otto
(1854-1915)
Elsje Elizabeth Nel
(Abt 1875-1933)

 

Elsje Elizabeth Nel 18

  • Born: Abt 1875, Greytown, Natal, South Africa
  • Marriage (1): Rev. Andrew Milne Murray on 16 Jun 1898 in NGK, Greytown, Natal, South Africa
  • Died: 30 Jul 1933, Riet Vlei, Natal, South Africa aged about 58
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Spouses/Children:

1. Rev. Andrew Milne Murray

(+ Shows person has known children.)



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bullet  Birth Notes:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KDC2-Y69

And

http://www.geni.com/people/Elsje-Elizabetta-Nel/6000000024764535542?through=6000000024764124800

And

Copy of Elsie Elizabeth Murray's Death Notice dated 11 August 1933 in RAB's possession. On it is recorded that she was probably born in Greytown. I have recorded it as Greytown. She was 58 when she died.

bullet  Death Notes:

National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MSCE
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 0
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 19837/1933
PART 1
DESCRIPTION MURRAY, ELSIE ELIZABETH. (BORN NEL).
STARTING 1933
ENDING 1934
REMARKS MSCE 17 825

And

National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MSCE
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 0
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 17825/1932
PART 1
DESCRIPTION MURRAY, ANDREW MILNE. (S/S ELSIE ELIZABETH, BORN NEL).
STARTING 1932
ENDING 1937
REMARKS MSCE NO 19 837.

And

Copy of Elsie Elizabeth Murray's Death Notice dated 11 August 1933 in RAB's possession.

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bullet  Sources of information or noted events in her life were:

• Web Based Info. National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MSCE
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 0
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 17825/1932
PART 1
DESCRIPTION MURRAY, ANDREW MILNE. (S/S ELSIE ELIZABETH, BORN NEL).
STARTING 1932
ENDING 1937
REMARKS MSCE NO 19 837.


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Elsje married Rev. Andrew Milne Murray, son of William Murray and Elsabe Antoinette Jakoba Gie, on 16 Jun 1898 in NGK, Greytown, Natal, South Africa. (Rev. Andrew Milne Murray was born on 4 Jul 1863, died on 26 Jan 1932 and was buried in Worcester, Cape Province, South Africa.)

bullet  Sources of information or noted events in their marriage were:

• Web Based Info. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KDC2-Y69

And

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11863-120620-3?cc=2063749
Witnesses:-
J.G. Nel
Geo. S. Malan

They were married by M.M.Murray presumably a relation.

And

Copy of Elsie Elizabeth Murray's Death Notice dated 11 August 1933 in RAB's possession.



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info There will inevitably be errors and omissions and the whole purpose of creating this online record, is to invite feedback and corrections.
The data is specifically for non-commercial use and my clear intention is to build family records. The data may, therefore, not be used in any way for the purposes of financial gain.

Caveat:- Throughout the project UK GRO birth, marriage and death index data appears. The GRO data appears in Quarters. Q1 = January, February and March, Q2 = April, May, June , Q3 = July, August and September and Q4 = October, November and December. Similarly, Mar Q = January, February and March, Jun Q = April, May, June , Sep Q = July, August and September and Dec Q = October, November and December. Where these dates occur, they represent the date of Registration of the event rather than the date of the actual event. Logically, registration occurs AFTER the event. In some cases this may be days or months or even years after the event. The important thing is that the event was recorded and a copy of the document of registration could be obtained if necessary. This also applies to South African NAAIRS records.

Similarly, the UK system is confusing to the uninitiated because registration districts can span several counties. Accordingly GRO locations may not record the true location of the event. They do record where the record is actually kept or recorded.

Caveat #2:- I have used URL's throughout the website as sources. The URLs are often from paid subscription sites so you may not be able to access them without an account. Inevitably there are broken URL's. I have been to every URL recorded here and at the time they were operational. In this regard, the Ancestry24 records are a problem. There are numerous references in the South African data citing Ancestry24 records. Unfortunately Ancestry24 has closed down and these records are no longer available on line.

The early South African records on this site would not have been as good as they are without the work done by Delia Robertson. Where there are website addresses containing http://www.e-family.co.za... I record the citation should read Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. This website can be found at First Fifty Years