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William Murray
(1829-1899)
Elsabe Antoinette Jakoba Gie
(1836-1922)
Rev. Andrew Milne Murray
(1863-1932)

 

Rev. Andrew Milne Murray 18

  • Born: 4 Jul 1863
  • Marriage (1): Martha Maria Conradie in 1889
  • Marriage (2): Elsje Elizabeth Nel on 16 Jun 1898 in NGK, Greytown, Natal, South Africa
  • Died: 26 Jan 1932 aged 68
  • Buried: Worcester, Cape Province, South Africa
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Spouses/Children:



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bullet  Birth Notes:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KDC2-Y69

And

http://www.geni.com/people/Andrew-Murray/6000000008119967634

And

http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=598918

bullet  Death Notes:

National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MSCE
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 0
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 17825/1932
PART 1
DESCRIPTION MURRAY, ANDREW MILNE. (S/S ELSIE ELIZABETH, BORN NEL).
STARTING 1932
ENDING 1937
REMARKS MSCE NO 19 837.

And

http://www.geni.com/people/Andrew-Murray/6000000008119967634

And

http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=598918

And

Copy of his wife, Elsie Elizabeth Murray's, Death Notice dated 11 August 1933 in RAB's possession. His death is recorded as 26th January 1932.

bullet  Burial Notes:

http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=598918

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bullet  Sources of information or noted events in his life were:

• Web Based Info. National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MSCE
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 0
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 17825/1932
PART 1
DESCRIPTION MURRAY, ANDREW MILNE. (S/S ELSIE ELIZABETH, BORN NEL).
STARTING 1932
ENDING 1937
REMARKS MSCE NO 19 837.

• Occupation. Minister.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11863-120620-3?cc=2063749

• General Comment. He is recorded as a widower when he married Ella Nel.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11863-120620-3?cc=2063749

• Children. Children with Martha Maria Conradie:-
a) Mary Magdalena * 14-01-1890 (FR-M)
b) Elsabe Antonetta * 20-07-1891 ~ 23-08-1891 (Baptismal register of the community Weenen)
c) Catharina Susanna * 20-03-1894 ~ 13-05-1894 (Baptismal register of the community Weenen)
d) Martha * 26-02-1896 ~ 11-04-1896 + 14-04-1896 (Baptismal register of the community Weenen)
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS-BRITISH/2004-01/1073463838


There is a list of his children with both of his wives at:-
http://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000008119967634

There is possibly a second daughter Martha Vida born to Elsie Elizabeth Nel. If so, She is almost certainly born 30 Nov 1903.
http://www.geni.com/people/Martha-Murray/6000000008119440164
http://www.geni.com/people/D-Vida-M-Murray/6000000020290408273

• Photographs. http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/person/Andrew-Milne-Murray/131098521-2033163


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Andrew married Martha Maria Conradie in 1889. (Martha Maria Conradie was born in 1863 and died in 1896.)

bullet  Sources of information or noted events in their marriage were:

• Web Based Info. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS-BRITISH/2004-01/1073463838


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Andrew next married Elsje Elizabeth Nel, daughter of Jan Gideon Nel and Sophia Salomina Jacomina Otto, on 16 Jun 1898 in NGK, Greytown, Natal, South Africa. (Elsje Elizabeth Nel was born about 1875 in Greytown, Natal, South Africa and died on 30 Jul 1933 in Riet Vlei, Natal, South Africa.)

bullet  Sources of information or noted events in their marriage were:

• Web Based Info. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KDC2-Y69

And

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11863-120620-3?cc=2063749
Witnesses:-
J.G. Nel
Geo. S. Malan

They were married by M.M.Murray presumably a relation.

And

Copy of Elsie Elizabeth Murray's Death Notice dated 11 August 1933 in RAB's possession.



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The data is specifically for non-commercial use and my clear intention is to build family records. The data may, therefore, not be used in any way for the purposes of financial gain.

Caveat:- Throughout the project UK GRO birth, marriage and death index data appears. The GRO data appears in Quarters. Q1 = January, February and March, Q2 = April, May, June , Q3 = July, August and September and Q4 = October, November and December. Similarly, Mar Q = January, February and March, Jun Q = April, May, June , Sep Q = July, August and September and Dec Q = October, November and December. Where these dates occur, they represent the date of Registration of the event rather than the date of the actual event. Logically, registration occurs AFTER the event. In some cases this may be days or months or even years after the event. The important thing is that the event was recorded and a copy of the document of registration could be obtained if necessary. This also applies to South African NAAIRS records.

Similarly, the UK system is confusing to the uninitiated because registration districts can span several counties. Accordingly GRO locations may not record the true location of the event. They do record where the record is actually kept or recorded.

Caveat #2:- I have used URL's throughout the website as sources. The URLs are often from paid subscription sites so you may not be able to access them without an account. Inevitably there are broken URL's. I have been to every URL recorded here and at the time they were operational. In this regard, the Ancestry24 records are a problem. There are numerous references in the South African data citing Ancestry24 records. Unfortunately Ancestry24 has closed down and these records are no longer available on line.

The early South African records on this site would not have been as good as they are without the work done by Delia Robertson. Where there are website addresses containing http://www.e-family.co.za... I record the citation should read Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. This website can be found at First Fifty Years