John West Olivier

Born: 22 Jun 1874, Ladybrand, Orange Free State, South Africa
Marriage (1): Maria Magdalena Van Ryneveld on 18 Jul 1899 in Ladybrand, Orange Free State, South Africa
Marriage (2): Emerentia Frederika Schoeman
Died: 17 Jan 1942, Ladybrand, Orange Free State, South Africa aged 67
Buried: Ladybrand, Orange Free State, South Africa

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Spouses/Children:

1. Maria Magdalena Van Ryneveld

2. Emerentia Frederika Schoeman

Martha Johanna Christina Olivier

(+ Shows person has known children.)

bullet Birth Notes:

Copy of John West Olivier's Death Notice dd 21 January 1942 in RAB's possession. He was 67 years and 7 months old when he died.
Cal 17 Jun 1874

And

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004763141_00840?cc=1910846&wc=MM1Q-BZQ:1902775734
Cal 18 Jul 1874

And

http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=2922419

bullet Death Notes:

Copy of John West Olivier's Death Notice dd 21 January 1942 in RAB's possession. He died at home in Ladybrand.

And

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11591-63427-98?cc=1407787&wc=MM1K-3HQ:n41161706

And

http://home.intekom.com/oli4s/Hendrik%20Afstammelinge.html

And

National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT VAB
SOURCE MHG
TYPE LEER
SYSTEM 02
REFERENCE 33687
PART 1
DESCRIPTION OLIVIER, JOHN WEST. EGGENOTES: MARIA MAGDALENA (GEBORE VAN RYNEVELD) EN EMERENTIA FREDERIKA (GEBORE SCHOEMAN).
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ENDING 19420000

And

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FC3D-1KL

And

http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=2922419

bullet Burial Notes:

http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=2922419

bullet Sources of information or noted events in his life were:

• Ancestors. According to:- http://home.intekom.com/oli4s/Hendrik%20Afstammelinge.html

His immediate ancestors were:-

(1) Willem Jacobus OLIVIER, (seun van Jan Thielman OLIVIER en Maria Magdalena VAN DER MERWE) * 23.08.1818 in Muiskraal, ? 06.08.1883 in Uitvlug. Hy trou 07.10.1838 in Swelendam, Anna Magdalena VAN DER MERWE, * 26.02.1821 in Beaufort-Wes (dogter van Willem Jacobus VAN DER MERWE en Johanna Maria Elizabeth OOSTHUIZEN).

(a) Willem Jacobus Lodewyk OLIVIER, * 30.08.1843. Hy trou Christoffelina Johanna WEST, * 30.09.1849 (dogter van John WEST en Stoffelina Johanna WILLEMSE).

• Web Based Info. National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT VAB
SOURCE MHG
TYPE LEER
SYSTEM 02
REFERENCE 33687
PART 1
DESCRIPTION OLIVIER, JOHN WEST. EGGENOTES: MARIA MAGDALENA (GEBORE VAN RYNEVELD) EN EMERENTIA FREDERIKA (GEBORE SCHOEMAN).
STARTING 1942
ENDING 1942

And

http://home.intekom.com/oli4s/Hendrik%20Afstammelinge.html

And

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FC3D-1KL

• Marital Status. Maria Magdalena Van Ryneveld was his first wife and Emerentia Schoeman the second.
http://home.intekom.com/oli4s/Hendrik%20Afstammelinge.html

• General Comment. Copy of his wife - Maria Magdalena Olivier nee Van Ryneveld's Death Notice dd 20 July 1923 in RAB's possession. He signed her death notice. He was present at her death.

• Occupation. Farmer.
Copy of his wife - Maria Magdalena Olivier nee Van Ryneveld's Death Notice dd 20 July 1923 in RAB's possession

And

Harness Maker.
Copy of John West Olivier's Death Notice dd 21 January 1942 in RAB's possession.

John married Maria Magdalena Van Ryneveld, daughter of Hendrik Daniel Van Ryneveld and Maria Magdalena Du Plessis. (Maria Magdalena Van Ryneveld was born on 6 Sep 1876 in Clocolan, Orange Free State, South Africa, christened on 5 Nov 1876 in Ladybrand, Orange Free State, South Africa, died on 10 Jul 1923 in Ladybrand, Orange Free State, South Africa and was buried in Ladybrand, Orange Free State, South Africa.)

bullet Sources of information or n events in their marriage were:

• Web Based Info. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004763141_00840?cc=1910846&wc=MM1Q-BZQ:1902775734

And

http://home.intekom.com/oli4s/Hendrik%20Afstammelinge.html

John next married Emerentia Frederika Schoeman. (Emerentia Frederika Schoeman was born on 10 Jun 1927.)

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The data is specifically for non-commercial use and my clear intention is to build family records. The data may, therefore, not be used in any way for the purposes of financial gain.

Caveat:- Throughout the project UK GRO birth, marriage and death index data appears. The GRO data appears in Quarters. Q1 = January, February and March, Q2 = April, May, June , Q3 = July, August and September and Q4 = October, November and December. Similarly, Mar Q = January, February and March, Jun Q = April, May, June , Sep Q = July, August and September and Dec Q = October, November and December. Where these dates occur, they represent the date of Registration of the event rather than the date of the actual event. Logically, registration occurs AFTER the event. In some cases this may be days or months or even years after the event. The important thing is that the event was recorded and a copy of the document of registration could be obtained if necessary. This also applies to South African NAAIRS records.

Similarly, the UK system is confusing to the uninitiated because registration districts can span several counties. Accordingly GRO locations may not record the true location of the event. They do record where the record is actually kept or recorded.

Caveat #2:- I have used URL's throughout the website as sources. The URLs are often from paid subscription sites so you may not be able to access them without an account. Inevitably there are broken URL's. I have been to every URL recorded here and at the time they were operational. In this regard, the Ancestry24 records are a problem. There are numerous references in the South African data citing Ancestry24 records. Unfortunately Ancestry24 has closed down and these records are no longer available on line.

The early South African records on this site would not have been as good as they are without the work done by Delia Robertson. Where there are website addresses containing http://www.e-family.co.za... I record the citation should read Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. This website can be found at First Fifty Years