Hendrik Daniel Van Ryneveld ³ ^,10

Born: Cal 30 Sep 1863, Worcester, Cape Province, South Africa ³ ^,10
Marriage (1): Rachel Christina
Marriage (2): Rachel Jacoba Elizabeth Liebenberg in All Saints, Beaconsfield, Northern Cape, South Africa
Died: 30 Aug 1943, Kimberley, Northern Cape, South Africa aged about 79 ¹⁰

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Spouses/Children:

1. Rachel Christina

(+ Shows person has known children.)

bullet Birth Notes:

Copy of Henry Daniel Van Ryneveld's Death notice dd 30 Sep 1943 in RAB's possession.
He was 79 years and 11 months old when he died on 30 Aug 1943.

And

http://www.geni.com/people/Hendrik-Daniel-van-Ryneveld/6000000007385323051

bullet Death Notes:

Copy of Henry Daniel Van Ryneveld's Death notice dd 30 Sep 1943 in RAB's possession.

And

Copy of his wife - Rachel Jacoba Elizabeth Van Ryneveld nee Liebenberg's Death Notice dd 21 Sep 1949 in RAB's possesion. His death is recorded as 30-8-1943.

And

http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/person/Hendrik-Daniel-van-Ryneveld/134387241-13063299

bullet Sources of information or noted events in his life were:

• General Comment. http://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000009014068352
Says born 1852. This is a perfect fit on the time line. Not finally proven.

• General Comment. 12 Jan 2013 - This is not yet proven finally. It fits the facts better.

23 Oct 2013 - proved beyond doubt his parents and his birth and death date.

Copy of Henry Daniel Van Ryneveld's Death notice dd 30 Sep 1943 in RAB's possession.

• General Comment, 1927. The Kenya Gazette has him or his son on Farm on Farm 62 Eldoret.

http://books.google.co.za/books?id=m6-w3LmMfCEC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=%22Elizabeth%22+%2B+%22Van+Ryneveld%22&source=bl&ots=oZvnczXx7i&sig=ukn9PGGZSd75arMVJbPWDyLlP9I&hl=en&ei=ZQ4MTsH_HIPusgaeu-n2Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22Van%20Ryneveld%22&f=false

• Marital Status. 12 Jan 2013

Either father, Hendrik Daniel [4147] or Hendrik Daniel [157] married Maria Magdalena Duplessis (1876)
Maria Magdalena Duplessis also married Herm Hendrikse.

National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT VAB
SOURCE MHG
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 0
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE P245
PART 1
DESCRIPTION VAN RYNEVELD, MARIA MAGDALENA. NOOIENSVAN DU PLESSIS. EGGENOTE HERM HENDRIKSE EN HENDRIK DANIEL VAN RYNEVELD.
STARTING 18760000
ENDING 18760000

And

National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT KAB
SOURCE MOOC
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 7/1/317
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 117
PART 1
DESCRIPTION DU PLESSIS, MARIA MAGDALENA. WIFE OF HERMANUS JOHANNES HENDRIKS. WILL.
STARTING 18710000
ENDING 18710000
REMARKS FILED 1871.

And

National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT NALN
TYPE Foto
REFERENCE 90/128
DESCRIPTION Portretstudie van Hermanus Johannes Hendriks, ook bekend as Hermie Hendriks en Renier de Vos, pseud.
STARTING 1989
ENDING 1989
REMARKS Fotograaf: onbekend. Kleur: swart en wit; grootte: 107 mm. x 165 mm.

And

National Archives of South Africa

DEPOT KAB
SOURCE MOOC
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 6/9/136
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 7292
PART 1
DESCRIPTION HENDRIKS, HERMANUS JOHANNES. DEATH NOTICE.
STARTING 18710000
ENDING 18710000

31/8/2015
I found two records:-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KYJ4-QPV
His wife is clearly recorded as Rachel Christina in the christening record of their daughter Mary Ann Christina in 1900.

And

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KYJ4-HHM
His wife is clearly recorded as Rachel Christina in the christening record of their daughter Susan Magdalena in 1903.

It is highly unlikely he got the name of his wife wrong twice. In both records he is a plate layer and lives in Beaconsfield.

In any event, I have shown him with wives both named Rachel. They may be the same person.

• Children. In the Geni Data there is Roelof Johannes Van Ryneveld (Nov 1897 - 1975)

10 Jan 2013 I am more than ever convinced he is the same person as Roelof Johannes Van Ryenveld[4112] who married Martha Van Stade Groenewald[4113]

12 Jan 2013 I am even more convinced. There is almost certainly a missing generation in the Geni time line at
http://www.geni.com/people/Roelof-van-Ryneveld/6000000009014140484
There is no question his dates or his parents are wrong at Geni.
Roelof Johannes Van Ryneveld (16 Nov 1897 - 1975) is person [164] and his parents are beyond doubt.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004763117_00127?cc=1910846&wc=MM1Q-BZM:1570477146

On the other hand , The Kenya Gazette has Rolph, Daniel Johannes and Elizabeth at Farm 23 Eldoret on 20 Dec 1927.

http://books.google.co.za/books?id=m6-w3LmMfCEC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=%22Elizabeth%22+%2B+%22Van+Ryneveld%22&source=bl&ots=oZvnczXx7i&sig=ukn9PGGZSd75arMVJbPWDyLlP9I&hl=en&ei=ZQ4MTsH_HIPusgaeu-n2Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22Elizabeth%22%20%2B%20%22Van%20Ryneveld%22&f=false

• Occupation. Platelayer.
Copy of Henry Daniel Van Ryneveld's Death notice dd 30 Sep 1943 in RAB's possession.

And

Platelayer.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KYJ4-HHM

And

Platelayer.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KYJ4-QPV

And

Fitter.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159394-67672-23?cc=1779109&wc=318P-FM9:139967101,141194401

• General Comment. The book "The Boers in East Africa" by Brian M. Du Toit records on page 128:-

13. Families alone or in small groups (1909-14) to BEA

Van Ryneveld H.

http://books.google.co.za/books?id=FexcTdkTnBQC&pg=PA184&lpg=PA184&dq=HD+Van+Ryneveld+BEA&source=bl&ots=dsplxZiOms&sig=kPpCZokf6zsML3Yauv-tsAFReMk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=nUy9UomJErPy7AbbgIHQCQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=HD%20Van%20Ryneveld%20BEA&f=false

• Web Based Info. He was present at his son, Benjamin's death and signed the death notice.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159394-67672-23?cc=1779109&wc=318P-FM9:139967101,141194401

Hendrik married Rachel Christina.

bullet Sources of information or n events in their marriage were:

• Web Based Info. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KYJ4-QPV
She is clearly recorded as Rachel Christina in the christening record of their daughter Mary Ann Christina in 1900.

And

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KYJ4-HHM
She is clearly recorded as Rachel Christina in the christening record of their daughter Susan Magdalena in 1903.

Hendrik next married Rachel Jacoba Elizabeth Liebenberg. (Rachel Jacoba Elizabeth Liebenberg was born on 25 Mar 1865 in , Cape Province, South Africa and died on 13 Sep 1949 in Kimberley, Northern Cape, South Africa.)

bullet Sources of information or n events in their marriage were:

• General Comment. Copy of Henry Daniel Van Ryneveld's Death notice dd 30 Sep 1943 in RAB's possession.

And

Copy of Rachel Jacoba Elizabeth Van Ryneveld nee Liebenberg's Death Notice dd 21 Sep 1949 in RAB's possesion.

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There will inevitably be errors and omissions and the whole purpose of creating this online record, is to invite feedback and corrections.
The data is specifically for non-commercial use and my clear intention is to build family records. The data may, therefore, not be used in any way for the purposes of financial gain.

Caveat:- Throughout the project UK GRO birth, marriage and death index data appears. The GRO data appears in Quarters. Q1 = January, February and March, Q2 = April, May, June , Q3 = July, August and September and Q4 = October, November and December. Similarly, Mar Q = January, February and March, Jun Q = April, May, June , Sep Q = July, August and September and Dec Q = October, November and December. Where these dates occur, they represent the date of Registration of the event rather than the date of the actual event. Logically, registration occurs AFTER the event. In some cases this may be days or months or even years after the event. The important thing is that the event was recorded and a copy of the document of registration could be obtained if necessary. This also applies to South African NAAIRS records.

Similarly, the UK system is confusing to the uninitiated because registration districts can span several counties. Accordingly GRO locations may not record the true location of the event. They do record where the record is actually kept or recorded.

Caveat #2:- I have used URL's throughout the website as sources. The URLs are often from paid subscription sites so you may not be able to access them without an account. Inevitably there are broken URL's. I have been to every URL recorded here and at the time they were operational. In this regard, the Ancestry24 records are a problem. There are numerous references in the South African data citing Ancestry24 records. Unfortunately Ancestry24 has closed down and these records are no longer available on line.

The early South African records on this site would not have been as good as they are without the work done by Delia Robertson. Where there are website addresses containing http://www.e-family.co.za... I record the citation should read Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. This website can be found at First Fifty Years

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Hendrik Daniel Van Ryneveld ³ ^,10