Capt. Charles Besley Gribble

Born: 1774
Marriage (1): Mary Ann Baker on 22 Sep 1802 in Barnstaple, Devon, England
Died: 1831 aged 57

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1. Mary Ann Baker

Commander Henry Gribble+

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bullet Death Notes:

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bullet Sources of information or noted events in his life were:

• Occupation. H.E.I.C. Marine Service. H.E.I.C. = Honourable East India Company.

• Web Based Info. http://www.archerfamily.org.uk/family/toller.html

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• General Comment. Extracted from "The Gribble Story"

Charles Besley Gribble (1774-1831), was a captain in the Honourable East India Company, and later a Commander of the Fleet. He met Napoleon on St Helena in 1816.

Earlier in his career, in the wake of the French Revolution, he was one of the signatories of the letter below (Burke & Dodsley's Annual Register vol 50 (1820) p287) to a Chinese official in Quang-tong [Guangdong], and Quang-si [now Guangxi, an autonomous region], near present-day Hong Kong, explaining that their purpose was trade and not belligerence:
To his Excellency the Viceroy of Quang-tong and Quang-si.

The Letter:-

May it please your Excellency,
WE the undersigned, commanders of the hon. English East-India company's ships at Whampoa, for ourselves, our officers, and our men, have the exalted honour to acknowledge the receipt of your excellency's most gracious letter, delivered to us on French Island, on the 4th Dec. 1808, by the two mandarins, whom we are informed it was your condescending pleasure to send for that purpose. Our object in visiting this country is purely commerce, to continue in the same manner that friendlyand useful intercourse which has existed for centuries, and now become, from its magnitude, of the very first importance to both our vast empires. We are taught in our own country, that obedience to our laws is the first essential to the well-being of the state; the same principle must apply to all countries, and we are therefore ordered, and endeavour, to venerate and obey yours; but such is the nature of our own laws and constitution, that we dare not, even in a foreign country, depart from allegiance to our own country, nor to those who are dignified with its most exalted representation. We understand that our admiral, who is an officer of high rank, at the request of the Portuguese, landed some troops at Macoa, to help them to defend it, against attacks from the French. This wicked nation, ever since they murdered their sovereign, have waged war upon all nations within their reach, and we understand are now marching by land to make war upon the celestial empire, as the British navy prevent them by sea. We, of course, wish to have no concern with any disturbances in the celestial empire, and we therefore most humbly implore your excellency to order the trade to be opened, that we may thereby find employment in the quiet habits of industry, which we conceive would prevent our services being required for other purposes, but which, if called for, our laws and our honour, would compel us to obey, whatever might be the consequences. With sentiments of the most profound veneration, and prayers for your excellency's welfare, we beg leave to subscribe our names.
Hon. Comp.'s Ship Elphinstone, Whampoa, 7th Dec. 1808.
(Signed) M. CRAIG, Sen. Officer, C. E. PRESCOTT, WM. MOFFAT, H. MERITON, J. LOCKE, WM. DUNSFORD, R. H. BROWN, J. J. WILLIAMSON, C. B. GRIBBLE, LUKE DODDS, F. ARMITAGE (Chief Officer), for W. A. MONTAGUE

He later became the the captain, part-owner and 'ship's husband' of the vessel Princess Charlotte of Wales, and after his death a Chancery case was unsuccessfully brought by the other owners against the bank with which he had deposited funds, backed by freight warrants (some of which he lent to his son Henry, also of the East India Company). The case, Sims v. Bond (1833) 5 Barnewall & Adolphus 389, and Lord Chief Justice Denman's remarks to the effect that a bank deposit is to be treated as loan, and cannot be recovered by others unless they can prove that the depositor was acting as an agent of the partnership, is still quoted in books on contract and partnership law.

Captain Gribble ('of Calcutta and Madras' - some of his papers are deposited at the National Archives in Kew) retired to Barnstaple in 1828, where he was made a 'Common Councilman'. According to a relative Joseph Besley Gribble (Memorials of Barnstaple 1830, p356) this was the first appointment of a nonconformist, in the face of the provision that None to be admitted a free Burgess, but those that are comformable to Church and State, and shall take the oaths of allegiance and supremacie at the time of such their admittance (a rule which he believed was originally intended to exclude Roman Catholics). However, if he was indeed a nonconformist, many of his descendants embraced the Church of England.
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• General Comment. His son Charles Besley Gribble is well documented. He was sometime clergyman in Constantinople and Canon of Gibraltar.
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Charles married Mary Ann Baker on 22 Sep 1802 in Barnstaple, Devon, England.

bullet Sources of information or noted events in their marriage were:

• Web Based Info. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5VL-3B8

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